Thursday, February 09, 2006

A Reopened Discussion

Are you aware that the urge, the drive - to do ANYTHING is in a major way sexually related? People with a low sex drive have very little desire to accomplish anything in life.

Furthermore, the dominant force behind working - is the reward one will attain. Sex ranks pretty high on the list of rewards. As a matter of fact - all I can think of is Sex, Power & Money. By removing sex I don't think we'll have a more productive world... quite the contrary.


This was a comment left by someone at David's blog last month. This is the original post and all the comments. I only found his blog the other day and was perusing the archives when I came across it and thought that maybe I wanted to talk about it a bit, but well, his discussion was a month old! So, I'm bringing it up here.

Firstly, I don't think that "the urge... to do anything is... sexually related". I think that desires and will and all that are all tied up because they come from the same place. I want/don't want ice-cream, approval, recognition, money, sex...they all go together. When a person doesn't feel like s/he wants anything or doesn't know what it is that s/he wants, that's a total experience. If one is not interested in anything because s/he is depressed or numb, well, s/he is also not interested in sex. It is part of the package. So, yes, "[p]eople with a low sex drive have very little desire to accomplish anything in life", but it's not because they have a low sex drive, it's because they have a low DRIVE - altogether.

I also want to say that Power, Money and Sex are not the only reasons to work. Sometimes, people enjoy their work and do it for the fulfillment of it. And also, when they are fulfilled, people enjoy everything more - the power, sex and money. I agree that sex is important, and probably even a motivational factor for many/most people (everybody?), but fulfillment is something that I think everyone is looking for. (Sex also brings fulfillment, so maybe that's also part of the equation?)

Anyway, I just wanted to open up this discussion. I'm not sure where it will lead, but I hope it's not too far outside the boundaries of tznius...

24 Comments:

At 7:18 AM, Blogger Datingmaster, Jerusalem said...

Maybe the quatation refers to men
many women are much less interested in sex
anyway come over for some barbecue

 
At 10:26 AM, Blogger serene said...

Dunno,
I never thought into it, but now that you are making me think... LOL, um, well, I think sex is also important for ones self esteem. It really gives a person a "drive" to go on in life. I mean, who can go on with life with a low self esteem (at least not a productive life...) and who can have a healthy self esteem without love from others?

 
At 1:49 PM, Blogger SS said...

DM: It was a woman who wrote it. And I do come over, but I don't leave comments so much. I did leave an anon comment recently, though, wink, wink.

Serene: I hear what you are saying. Love from others is important. But I'm not talking about love, I'm talking about sex. The two can be separated. Haven't you ever wanted a good hug, or a cuddle, but not sex? And we all know that sex does not have to be about love. Thanks for coming over.

 
At 6:06 PM, Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

Hi SS..
Wow I'm honored to be mentioned in your blog.

It could be the case for many..but I've never found that to be so for me. My sex drive..drives me to nothing more than sex...lol

 
At 5:46 AM, Blogger SS said...

David, it was nothing, really. Truth is, I was looking at your archives, and this caught my eye, and well, I explained it in my blog entry. Thanks for stopping by and for commenting. I tend to agree with you. My point was that the drives of an individual are all connected, but not necessarily that they lead to one another. Maybe I'll have to clarify.

 
At 6:56 AM, Blogger serene said...

SS - true. Love can probably suffice, but the epitome of love, ends up in sex.

 
At 8:06 AM, Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

Serene...Gosh.. I hope not...

 
At 8:52 AM, Blogger serene said...

Uh - why David? Do you hate sex that much?

 
At 12:59 PM, Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

Well...that blanket statement ..that all love leads to sex..could be dangerous.

 
At 6:36 AM, Blogger SS said...

Serene, I don't think you're right. I think that sex has been built up in popular consciousness into some kind of be-all and end-all. If you're not getting any, well, sorry but you're a loser. I don't think that's true. I agree with you that deep love leads to intimacy - which usually means sex. However, I wouldn't say that sex is the epitome of love. Love can still exist if sex becomes for some reason (physical or psychological) impossible. Maybe love will be tried in such a situation, but it can still be strong.

 
At 1:31 AM, Blogger Datingmaster, Jerusalem said...

thanks for coming over -I appreciate your comments-men clearly have sexual competition a sa big issue thats why they fdrive fancier cars, wear more expensive suits, court the beautiful women-sex is very deeply there in most if not all male activity

 
At 1:31 AM, Blogger Datingmaster, Jerusalem said...

you can leave a smany anonymous comments as you like -as long as they are interesting
do u want to do afantasy post about me

 
At 3:35 AM, Blogger Datingmaster, Jerusalem said...

life has never been more challenging. do u agree?

 
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